Talking to the Dead is Forbidden

Talking to the Dead is Forbidden

This is the Catholic Version of this page.

This version has added information

for Catholics to consider.

Talking to the Dead - 

is

Forbidden by God.

This includes -

Talking to your dead relatives. 

Even though

we all are tempted to do that.

This includes

praying to  or  asking help from - 

Mary & Heavenly Saints.

This Page will Explain.

The following video 

will clearly explain

what God says on this subject. 

The extra Catholic material will be further down.

Doreen Virtue

used to be

a famous New Age teacher.

Now

she is a dedicated Christian.

I would say that

she is an expert on this subject. 

She knows

the ins and outs

of 

WHY

talking to the dead is wrong.

Doreen is  - now  - a

Faithful Follower of  Jesus Christ.

Doreen is concerned that

lots of Christians

talk to the dead

(necromancy)

and think that it is ok.

I encourage you to listen to this entire video.

I endorse this video. It is excellent. 

Disclaimer: I do not always agree with Doreen Virtue and Alisa Childers in their videos. Sometimes I disagree with their positions.  

A Key Verse

Deuteronomy 18:11 ESV

Deuteronomy 18:11

clearly says

Talking to the Dead

is sinful.

As part of a list of forbidden sins....

verse 11 says...

"or a charmer or a

medium

or a necromancer

or

one who inquires of the dead."

In the above verse, it lists....

1. A Medium - who talks to the dead.

2. A necromancer - who talks to the dead.

3. One who inquires of the dead - who talks to the dead.

THREE Times in that verse....

God forbids

"talking to dead people."

Three times - so we don't miss it.

Notes:

Some Bible Translations use the word "spiritist" instead of necromancer.

Charmer is one who casts magic spells.

Cut and Paste links in your Browser

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Necromancy

Definition of Medium    https://biblehub.com/hebrew/178.htm

Many people

will get convicted watching this video.

Conviction

is used by God to help guide us toward right living.

I have a Christian friend who used to look forward

to talking to dead relatives in her dreams.

She liked to ask them questions.

Now she has been educated about such things.

She has asked God to forgive her for doing it,

and she has renounced this practice. 

 Quick

Video

on this topic.

Less than 2 minutes

Note:

Demonic forces are aware of things

about your loved one's earthly life

and can use those things

to fool you into thinking

you are communicating with your loved one.

Have questions?

Isaiah 8:19

tells us to go straight to God to ask HIM -

not

go to the dead...

God will answer us

in his own time and in his own way.

Isaiah 8:19 says,

"When they say to you, “Consult the mediums and the spiritists who whisper and

mutter,” should a people not consult their God?
Should they consult the dead in behalf of the living?"

Doreen's Video

Going back to Doreen's video.

Next

we have...

Comments

from under the

Doreen Virtue  - Youtube video.

First Highlighted Comment

Thank you so much! I lost my first husband at 24, and for the last 11 years, I have had dreams where he felt real. I can clearly see how the enemy has tried to tempt me in these areas. It can be so confusing! Thank you for this!

Second

Oh my, this is so convicting! The human side of us wants so much to believe we can communicate with our loved ones who have passed on. Thank you so much for addressing this important issue from a Biblical perspective!

Third

This was a fantastic.. I used to go to my girlfriend‘s grave and talk to her all the time not knowing that I could’ve opened up a door to the devil …I am also now hooked up to the new ESV audio Bible. Thank you.

Fourth

I've had a son die when he was 11 from a kidney disease. In the 12 years since then I've remembered seeing Micah in a dream several times. But I've never interpreted that as him actually coming to me, but rather as just memories of him being put into that dream. As hard as it has been to have lost him, I don't want to dishonor him or
the Lord in trying to seek out some sort of special contact with him. 
He knew Jesus, and so I have a great hope to spend eternity with him. So I certainly look forward to speaking with him again in eternity. At the moment, though, 
I'm content, knowing that God's in control.

Now that

we KNOW that every act of talking to the dead

is classified as sin - 

If we have been doing that...

Let's repent

and

refocus and

set our actions on obedience!

Joni Lamb

A Quick Section on 

Joni Lamb

Introduction Note:

I have never watched Joni Lamb.

Joni Lamb of Daystar television

has

recently said that

her dead husband gave her a message.

My response...

God tells me that the Bible is my standard of truth.

God forbids talking to the dead.

Therefore, I know that 

 Joni was not hearing from her dead husband.

-

Any Christian teacher or leader who promotes 

talking to the dead in any way

is committing sin and wrongly guiding people to sin.

-

Please join me to pray for Joni to realize the truth.

The Rest of the Page

is for those who are

interested

in 

Catholic aspects

of this 

topic.

After

a short introduction,

I have a list of topics. 

Take note:

At the bottom of the page, there is a section on

Catholics promoting

Talking to their dead relatives.

Introduction

Catholics

pray to

Mary and the Saints

in heaven.

Using Bible verses, 

I will explain

in detail

why

it is

wrong

for Catholics

to pray to Mary and the Saints in heaven.

-

But first  - I will present a short introduction video. 

This video

will help us

get started

on this topic.

I endorse this video. 

Disclaimer: I do not always agree with Mike Winger. Sometimes I disagree with his positions. 

Note That:

I do disagree with one point in the above video.

I disagree with his comments concerning the - 

Wedding of Cana.

I will share my thoughts further down.

Those thoughts are located in # 5 section

which is

right after  -   the Yellow arrow.

List of - Catholic Sections 

Note That:

To the best of my ability

at this time -

I am

presenting and refuting

the Catholic reasoning about these topics.

To our Catholic friends - 
We are seeking to show respect as we present this page.

Here are the >   Catholic  <  sections.

1.

Praying to Mary 

2.

Mary & Saints as Intercessors

3.

Catholics say they do not worship Mary  -

so what they are doing is ok.

4.

Mary & the Saints are in heaven and not really dead -
so
Catholics say
they do not talk to the dead.

5.

Wedding of Cana

6.

Mount of Transfiguration

7.

The New Testament
doesn't say we cannot pray or talk to people in heaven...

Only the Old Testament says it is sinful.

8.

In Revelation 5:8 prayers are carried in vials - 

So Catholics say they are just
asking Mary & Saints to carry prayers to God.

9.

Martyrs in heaven

10.

Mary is sinless so her prayers are more powerful.

( Actually the Bible says - Mary was not sinless.)

11.

False Catholic Beliefs about Mary

Not found in the Bible.

12.

Catholics Promote talking to dead relatives.

Number 1.

Praying to Mary 

The Bible gives 0 examples of praying to a person - 

dead or alive.

I will remind you that

in Luke 11

when the disciples

asked Jesus HOW to Pray -

Jesus said,

" Pray to the Father in my Name. "

So

Jesus spoke on the subject of 

 WHO to PRAY to.

To me -

that should end the debate

about praying to anyone else

other than God.

God's Word is Simple concerning this topic.

We don't need to make it complicated.

Number 2.

For those who are not Catholic and want to see one example of what many Catholics believe -
cut and past and put this link in your browser
 https://youtu.be/j7AQGyqtoK0?si=k8insBlnYf2I3O_W

Note -  That video is full of false statements and assumptions.

Mary & the Saints as Intercessors

Some Catholics say,

We are just asking 

Mary and the Saints to "intercede."

My Response -

Deuteronomy 18:11  forbids "asking."

That includes asking for Mary or Saints to intercede.

Deuteronomy 18:11

contains two Hebrew words that both mean "ask or inquire or consult." 

God is clear  - there is to be no asking or talking at all.

If

you want to learn more about

the 2 Hebrew words 

that are used to tell us

not to 

"ask -   or inquire -  or consult"

the dead,

then keep reading.

Or

you can skip

the Hebrew word section

by scrolling down to this cross....

OR

you can skip to the next section

by scrolling down to the RED ARROW.

In Deuteronomy 18:11

there are two Hebrew words

that inform us that "asking" a dead person -  is sinful.

First

Hebrew Word is Hebrew # 7592.

To see a page on Strong's Hebrew #7592....

Cut and Paste in Browser....

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/7592.htm

On that page link, look down to the section

that has

how the NASB version has translated

this Hebrew word in various Bible Scriptures...

We see the

various ways that # 7592 is translated into English

for various Scriptures in the NASB version of the Bible.

ask (45), asked (41), asking (5), asks (5), beg (1), begged (1), begs (1), borrow (1), borrowed (1), borrows (1), consult (2), consulting (1), consults (1), dedicated (2), dedicated* (1), demand (1), demanded (1), desired (1), desires (1), earnestly asked (1), earnestly asked leave (1), greet* (5), greeted* (1), inquire (6), inquired (18), inquires (1), making (2), medium* (1), pray (1), questioned (2), questioned particularly (1), request (2), request* (1), requested (7), require (1), required (1), sought (1),
surely ask (1).

And

Deuteronomy 18:11

also uses the Strong's Hebrew word # 1875.

Next,

we see the

various ways that # 1875 is translated into English

for various Scriptures in the NASB version of the Bible.

Cut & Paste in your browser....

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1875.htm

Below is that word defined....

ask (1), avenge (1), calls (1), care (1), cares (3),
comes the reckoning (1),
consult (2), consulted by them at all (1), demand (1),
inquire (33), inquired (5), inquirer (1), investigate (3), investigated (1),
looks (2), making inquiry (1), questioned (1), require (7), required (1), requires (1), resort (3), search (6), searched (1), searched carefully (1), searches (2), seek (53), seek after (1), seeking (2), seeks (3), sought (18), studied (1), study (1), surely require (1).

Both Hebrew Words

are used in Deuteronomy 18:11

to tell us

Talking to the Dead

is a

sin.

Number 2 Part B

Many Catholics say,

"Mary and the Saints are part of the Church. 

And

we ask people from our earthly church

to pray for us.

So - Since

Mary and the Saints are part of the Church.

we can ask them to pray for us

or at least intercede in some way for us."

My Response:

God has a separation between us and
those
who have gone to heaven before us. 

God clearly says,

"No asking. No talking. Nothing." 

Catholics sometimes say -

"If we can intercede for each other on earth

in such a fruitful way,

how much more the saints in heaven?"

My Response:

THAT is using human reasoning

to make an excuse

to avoid obeying clear Scripture.

God does  NOT  want us to use our own reasoning

to decide

what we think is ok to do.

We are to make the Bible our standard of conduct.

Number 3.

Catholics say, "We are not Worshipping Mary."

Many Catholics defend the practice of talking to the dead

by saying,

"We are not WORSHIPPING" Mary."

My Response:

Worshipping Mary

is of course

WRONG

BUT that is not a defense when it comes to 

talking to Mary.

Both worshipping Mary and talking to Mary

are wrong.

Number 4.

Mary and the Saints are not really dead

Many Catholics say...

" We aren't praying to the dead

or asking something

from the dead.

Mary and the Saints aren't dead

- they are alive in heaven -

so we can communicate with them."

My Response:

No ...

God was clear.

We are not to talk to people who are no longer on earth.

No matter what words you use

- for example "alive in heaven" -

the fact is that

God said NOT to communicate with them.

Discussing the word "dead."

Notice that

The Bible

uses the word "dead" in the New Testament

to mean anyone

who is no longer living on earth -

including godly people.

See:

 1 Thessalonians 4:16 b "And the dead in Christ will rise first."

 1 Cor 7:39 - remarriage after dead spouse

Col. 1:18, 1 Cor. 15:52,  2 Cor. 1:9,  James 2:26, etc. 

Note - We do not say in conversation,

"My mother who is no longer on earth is alive."

We say, "She is dead and she is now living in heaven." 

God did not

differentiate

 - with regards to talking to dead people - 

between

people who were evil who died

and

people who loved God and died.

God just says,

"No talking" and expects us to obey.

Now I give an important Bible Story on this topic.

Next -

A Bible Example

Bible   Example:

1 Samuel 28

King Saul went to a medium

 - who was called the witch of Endor - 

to help him

talk to dead Samuel.

The Bible records this as a sin.

>>   The Bible also records that Saul KNEW it was a sin.   < < 

Samuel had died.

Samuel was a righteous, godly man.

Yes,

Samuel was "alive" in paradise.

But

the Bible does not say that since

Samuel was "alive" in paradise,

 it is ok to talk to him.

The Bible speaks of Samuel as "a dead person."

Saul, the witch, and every Jew at that time

knew what God meant

when God said,

"Do not communicate with the dead."

I do not believe

that Catholics are

intentionally

trying to do something wrong.

The issue is that...

individual Catholics are relying on

the fact that

many people they respect say it is ok.

Therefore,

it is not hard for them to go along with

the verbal gymnastics that try to make this practice ok.

Even if people sincerely think

talking to the dead

is just fine -

God does not ask our opinion.

Important Point

Every Christian

needs to try to avoid

justifying

a certain interpretation of a 

Scripture verse or verses

when their preferred interpretation

will allow

what they want to do

to be biblically ok.

Those who are in heaven

cannot

HEAR us when we pray.

Psalm 139:2

tells us that God hears our thoughts.

David writes...

 " You [God] know when I sit down and when I rise up;

    you discern my thoughts from afar. "

Psalm 139:2

When we pray out-loud

only God

(and anyone on earth physically near us)

can hear us.

When we pray silently

only God

can hear us.

I will even add...

If

talking to people in heaven was different,

than

God's previous Old Testament clear commands -

then...

the Bible would CLEARLY give us that information.

If the Bible is clear on a subject,

then

we do not need

to try to

stretch

the definitions of words in order to do

what WE think appears fine to do.

We all have had times

when the Bible

has shed light

on a false belief that we have.

We all need to remind ourselves to focus on

God's clear commands

and beware of

doing verbal gymnastics

to justify

what we WANT  to believe or what we WANT to do.

Number 5.

Wedding of Cana

Note:

I see the wedding of Cana differently than Mike Winger

in the earlier video. 

The Wedding of Cana 

John chapter 2

explained logically

During that wedding celebration,

Mary told Jesus

that the wine is gone.

Jesus said, "My time has not come."

Essentially

Jesus said, "NO" to doing a miracle.

THEN

he did it.

So what changed?

Jesus tells us that he ONLY obeyed Father God.

In John 5:19 ESV

Jesus said to them,

“Truly, truly, I say to you,

the Son can do nothing of his own accord,

but only what he sees the Father doing.

For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise."

So obviously

Father God had NOT told Jesus to provide wine

and the Father had NOT told Jesus

that it was time for his miracles and ministry to start.

So Jesus told Mary "no" because Father God had not told him to do it.

Obviously

after Jesus said,

"No,"

Father God THEN said to Jesus

that actually it WAS his time to begin miracles and his ministry.

Key Point

Important Note:

To say that

Mary influenced Jesus after he said "No"

is to say that

Mary influenced Jesus

to go against

the Father.

THAT reasoning guides us to go AGAINST Scripture.

Meaning - 

If

Jesus said,

"No, my time has not come"

and then did it

just

because

Mary asked him to -

THEN

Jesus is not truthful

because he said he ONLY did what the Father told him to do.

Mary is not the Father.

Why did Mary ask?

?

For 30 years

Mary is not recorded as having asked Jesus

to do a miracle.

And if she did - he said "No"
because
the Bible tells us this is his first miracle.

"This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him."
John 2:11 KJV

For 30 years,

there had been much more dire situations around Jesus,

and yet Jesus stood by and did no miracle.

For example - when people Mary (and Jesus) loved got sick.

Note -

Apparently Joseph had already died.

So...

Running out of wine is not on that level.

So...

Why
did Mary ask Jesus for this situation? 

And why did she seem so sure he would do it? 

Mary's Reply

Mary said to the servants, "Do whatever he says."

She seems to believe he would do it - yet - she totally makes sure that her response
is open-ended so.... she knew she could be wrong.

I logically assume that

she must have had some kind of

supernatural stirring in her heart from

Father God

that Jesus was supposed to do this.

She must have never had that stirring before...

even through

all the problems in life that they dealt with in their family.

With the stirring in her heart

and then  - Jesus saying "No,"

she would probably feel confused. 

Mary chose a statement that was open-ended.

Her response did not imply that Jesus had to do anything.

Jesus could have said to the servants,

"Continue with whatever you were doing." 

Mary chose her words

so that her words would 

leave the door open for whatever Father God's will was.

When I read this story,

I see that Jesus was willing to say "no" to his mother.

Therefore,

I have considered that - perhaps...

Father God whispered to Mary's heart

before Father God told Jesus

in order to show that

Jesus was always obedient to God EVEN IF his own mother

asked him to do something.

I didn't grow up Catholic - my mind
saw that
Jesus did say "No"
and
unless 
Father God told him otherwise,
Jesus
would be firm on continuing to say "No."

Number 6.

Mount of Transfiguration

The Scriptures are found in

Matthew 17

Mark 9

Luke 9

Catholics sometimes say,

"Jesus and the Mount of Transfiguration incident, 

show we can talk to dead people."

My Response:

Only Jesus

spoke to Elijah and Moses.

For example Mark 9:4.

What Jesus does

has nothing to do with

what WE can do. 

For example,

Jesus can receive worship. 

That does not mean that we can receive worship. 

The Bible tells us what WE can do.

Number 7.

The New Testament
doesn't specifically say we can't.

Catholics sometimes say,

"The New Testament doesn't explicitly say not to do it - 

so we can." 

My Response:

The Old Testament does explicitly say not to.

And - We often forget that

the Scriptures that the New Testament church used

WAS  THE  OLD  TESTAMENT.

2 Timothy says,

^" All scripture is given by inspiration of God,

and is profitable for doctrine,

for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

The early church saw all scripture as of course the Old Testament.

 I'll add...

There are lots of sins that are not  explicitly  IN the Bible.

The Bible does not explicitly - word for word -
say aborting an unborn baby is wrong.

The Bible does not explicitly say that using
the internet to steal money is wrong.

The Bible does not explicitly - word for word -  say that having sex
with an underage child is wrong. 

CLEARLY

you cannot go to God with the following excuse,

"God, you cannot say that my sin is wrong,

because it is not word-for-word

written about

in the New Testament." 

And - In this case,

God has clearly spoken to us

in the 

Old Testament.

God clearly said

NOT to TALK to people who are no longer on earth

in the Old Testament

and the

New Testament never changes that.

This has to do with a

clear warning

NOT

to speak to those who have died.

Number 8.

Revelation 5 Prayer Vials

Catholics say,

"The book of Revelation speaks of prayers

being carried in vials which is clearly intersession being done."

My Response:

No, that is not clearly intersession.

Carrying a vial of prayers is not intercession.

God hears our prayers from our mind.

God does not need a prayer container in order to hear our prayers.

 God

does not

have to wait for someone to bring him our prayers

in order to hear them.

Psalm 139:4 tells us that...

God knows

what we are going to say

BEFORE we SAY it.

O Lord, you have searched me and known me!
² You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
    you discern my thoughts from afar.
³ You search out my path and my lying down
    and are acquainted with all my ways.
⁴ Even before a word is on my tongue,
    behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.

Number 9.

Martyrs in heaven

Catholics say,

"In Revelation 6:9-11
the martyrs in heaven are aware of what is going on in earth."

Revelation 6:9-11 ESV
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne.
¹⁰ They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
¹¹ Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

My Response:

Whether those who are no longer on earth

know certain things about earth

or not

has nothing to do with God's clear command

NOT to TALK to people in heaven.

Number 10.

Catholics say - Mary was sinless

Catholics believe -  that Mary never sinned.

The Bible never said she was sinless.

IN FACT,

the Bible said she WAS a sinner.

God intentionally put

Luke 1:47

in the Bible

to let us know that Mary was a sinner. 

Let's go through this logically....

If Mary never sinned,

Mary did    not    need a Savior.

NOTE THAT

Mary

verbally said

that

she needed

a Savior

in Luke 1:47.

In Addition,

Romans 3:23
says

"ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."

Therefore,

Mary sinned.

It says it clearly in Romans 3:23.

Also see John 14:6.

Jesus was 100% God   AND 100% Human.

Mary was just 100% Human. 

She was just a person who sometimes sinned.

Let's Continue...

We cannot insert

our wishful thinking or our imagination thoughts into Scripture.

Deuteronomy 4:2 says,

" Do not add to

what I command you and do not subtract from it,

but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you."

Also see 1 Corinthians 4:6

Jesus was

 the only sinless person to have ever lived.

Period.

Here is a quick addition to this section.

Concerning James 5:16.....

James 5:16

says,

"The Prayers of a Righteous Man availeth Much."

Catholics say,

"But what about James 5:16?

It says that the prayers of a righteous man avails much.

And - All those in heaven are more righteous than us."

That verse explains

how prayer works for -  people on earth.

God was

not

trying to

mysteriously steer us

toward thinking the people in heaven

can

pray more powerful prayers than we can.

-

As we have previously said,

" Communicating with those in heaven is forbidden! "

Number 11.

False Catholic Beliefs about Mary

This section contains

False Catholic Beliefs about Mary

that are

Not found in the Bible.

None

of the

Following Catholic Beliefs

are found in the Bible...

( My Answers are in Blue )

1. Catholics say - - - Mary is our Mother

The Bible says no such thing.

Catholics use the Scripture of Jesus and John at the cross for their reason....

In John 19:26-27

Jesus told John,

"Behold your mother"

in order to tell John

to physically take care of Mary

after his death.

That has nothing to do with us.

2. Catholics say - - - Mary never sinned

 I just addressed that above.

3. Catholics say - - - Mary remained a virgin all her life

No - Not True

See the  Next Section  for details.

4. Catholics say - - - Mary's body went to heaven in a supernatural way - like Enoch.

Some Catholics think
she was alive when she went up
some think she was dead when her body was taken to heaven. 

The Bible says NOTHING about Mary's body being taken to heaven.

That is from someone's imagination.

5. Some Catholics say or imply - - - Mary is a co-redemptrix.

No - Not True

NO!

The Bible says we have ONE mediator.

1 Timothy 2:5 says,

 For there is one God,

and one mediator between God and men,

the man Christ Jesus.

Consider visiting our Mary page for more discussion.

6. Catholics say - - - There is a Purgatory.

Purgatory is not found in the Bible and it is TOTALLY FALSE.

No one becomes totally perfect before they die.

And... People do not

go to purgatory to

get prefect or to get good enough for heaven.

Click here for a page - Explaining Salvation  

Regarding Purgatory....

When we die -

2 Corinthians 5:8

says...

"Absent from the body is present with the Lord [in heaven] ."

Important Point

Highlighting - Luke 23:43

The criminal - we often call him a thief

on the cross

who sincerely called upon Jesus, certainly was not perfect. 

He admitted to his guilt.

If anyone should go to purgatory - that man should.

That criminal

would be the

Catholic prime example

of a

candidate for purgatory

if

there was such a place. 

However,

the Bible says....

The thief went straight to be with Jesus in paradise!

In Luke 23:43

Jesus said to that man,

"This day will you see me in paradise."

Purgatory

has a unsavory history.

I plan to do a page on purgatory.

Mary - a Virgin all her life?

Virgin Mary

Section

Did Mary

Remain a Virgin All Her Life?

NO!

Many Catholics say that

Mary stayed a virgin all her life.

My Response:

The Bible disagrees.

The Bible says that Mary and Joseph

had sex

after Jesus was born.

See my Explanations below...

The Bible clearly says - 

Mary and Joseph had sex.

And

The Bible clearly says -

Jesus had brothers and sisters.

First -

Bible Verses

about brothers and sisters...

In many verses

including

Matthew 13:55 and Matthew 12:46, John 2:12, John 7:5, Acts 1:14, 

1 Corinthians 9:5,

and Galatians 1:19

the Bible says that

Jesus had brothers and sisters.

They would technically be the stepbrothers and stepsisters of Jesus,

because Joseph was not Jesus' biological father. 

A N D

The Bible says that

Mary and Joseph had sex

after Jesus was born.

The Bible uses the term

" TO KNOW "

to mean > to have sex.

Matthew 1:24-25

tells us

Mary and Joseph had  sex  after the birth of Jesus.

Matthew 1:24-25 NKJV

says...

" Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep,

did as the angel of the Lord commanded him

and took to him his wife,

²⁵ and did not  know  her 

till

she had brought forth her firstborn Son.

And he called His name Jesus."

We see the term

"to know"

in other verses such as Genesis 4:1.

"And Adam knew Eve his wife;
and she conceived,
and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord."

Genesis 4:1

And even Common Sense undermines the Catholic stance.

Common Sense

also

disagrees

that Mary stayed a virgin

1 Corinthians 7:5

is a

Key Verse to unlock this subject

The Bible let's us know that....

God wants

husband and wives to have sex regularly

because

without regular sexual activity,

a husband and wife are tempted of Satan.

1 Corinthians 7:5 says,

"Do not deprive one another

[of sex]

except with

consent for a time,

that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer;

and come together again

so that

Satan does not tempt you

because of your lack of self-control."

Scripture & Common Sense -

Mary and Joseph

living together as husband and wife

without

having sex

would have

caused them great temptation to have sex. 

It would have caused

Joseph to often sin in lust.

And

it would also have created sinful lust in Mary.

(Sinful lust = longing to have something you can't have.)

The Bible says

that a husband and wife

should not deprive each other

except when they agree during fasting.

To call her a virgin all her life calls Mary sinful in lusting
and creates sinful lust in Joseph AND makes them
disobedient to God's will for marriages.

So the Bible is clear that

Mary was NOT a virgin all her life.

And - More Common Sense

Respectfully -  it appears to me that...

If the Men

in the leadership of the Catholic Church

throughout the generations

truly believed and thoughtfully analyzed their belief

instead of following their emotions,

they would not only be just honoring Mary

BUT

they would be HONORING Joseph

for his difficult sacrifice

of being tempted but not having sex all his life.

Think how tempted Joseph would be!

Think how sad Joseph would be.

Preoccupation with Mary

If a person knew nothing

about

Jesus, Mary, or anything about the Bible,

and just picked up

the New Testament and read through it

THAT person

would not end up with

a preoccupation with Mary.

This preoccupation

comes from

hearing things from people -

not

reading things in the Bible.

By the way,

many Catholics believe that

Mary was born sinless.

Which is another made - up idea from someone's imagination.

They say
Mary needed to be born
sinless
to have a sinless baby.

But
if
Jesus can't be born sinless without a sinless mother
then how
was Mary born sinless with a sinful Mother and Father? 

To be clear:

The Protestant view

is....

all Christians  - dead or alive -  are Saints.

Dead Saints - Matthew 27:52

Alive Saints - Ephesians 4:12, Rev. 13:7

And

Protestants see Mary as just a Christian sister.

And we are

totally stunned

at the attention and devotion

 - particularly prayer to her - 

that

Mary gets.

Until somewhat recently,

I had no idea

how preoccupied Catholics were with

Mary.

Mary's position in the Catholic Church is not correct.

I respectfully say...

Catholics

stray

so far away

from what the Bible tells us

about Mary

that

they end up producing videos 

such as

the

following.

In the video

Mary

takes the place

of Jesus

in many aspects of the Christian life.

I have never heard any

apology or embarrassment

from Catholics

on videos such as the one above.

My comments on the above video...

This Mary video is so wrong on so many levels.

No, we do not NEED to get to know Mary

in order to

 develop a relationship with Jesus.

The last words of the video are

"We cannot understand Jesus without his mother."

That is not true.

The video tries

to prove

that we all MUST have Mary to help us. 

The video seems to say...

God the Father is too tough on us without Mary's assistance.

Consider our other page about

Mary

with MORE Scriptures and Explanation.

NEXT...

Catholics talking to Dead Relatives

Number 12.

Catholics Promote talking to dead relatives

Many Catholics

promote talking to dead relatives.

-

God says that activity is sin.

This Catholic Priest

explains

talking to your dead relatives.

Thought for Catholics to Consider

What if

you think someone

is in heaven or in purgatory

and they are in hell.

THEN

even Catholics would agree that you are talking to the dead.

-

There are so many holes

in these unbiblical Catholic practices.

For More About

Catholics promoting

talking to dead relatives

and other forbidd activities...

see the link below.

The article below has MANY False statements and teachings.

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https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/42049/remember-me-should-catholics-talk-to-their-dead-loved-ones

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